week 3 ( monday );

[reidentify]

[Meeting in the longhouse is a go! Lief clears his throat, as a part of him wonders how he keeps ending up in this situation, but:]

Thank you all for gathering here. These past few weeks have been difficult, but I pray that none of us fall into despair. Now, more than ever, we need to keep our spirits up and put an end to this twisted game.

Vriska and Kirigiri have asked that we take advantage of our time now to discuss our next course of action, without an immediate deadline constraining us, driving us to ill temper. As we have struggled with how we should approach the trial, perhaps we should focus on the roles—the ones with the purpose to kill.

In particular, what sort of people would the Chiefs place in such a role? Not necessarily who would kill, normally, but who would be the Chiefs' "ideal" candidates. That is what we wish to figure out.

... Of course, we may not come to a complete agreement. But perhaps we will walk away from this with a better idea of how to go on from here, if nothing else.

[ooc: basically, a mingle post to discuss stuff! top-level and hijack away, etc.]

Comments

[sylfied]

[ ... why can't she rest ]

Probably people who have killed before. There's a bigger chance they'd be more willing to do it again, no matter their reasons before.

[varunastra]

The rules seem very effective at providing motivation to fall in line.

[ Vote wrong and the cute little girl gets her eye stabbed out? If there's a breaking point for everyone, Hal seems quite capable of finding it. ]

The other possibility is those who, in being forced to kill, would prove the most...entertaining.

[ You can hear the air quotes around "entertaining." Serph does not find this entertaining. ]

[zerotohiro]

[Hm.]

When I asked the Chiefs about the roles--Hal, by the way, before we get into that argument--he said that the role is incentive enough to murder, and everyone who has a role has a reason to perform their role.

So the only thing I can figure is that it's people they have some sort of leverage over somehow or another, too.

[evidentiary]

...Most people have some sort of lever. As long as you know what it is...

[cuedoves]

Maybe it has something to do with the items most of us received. Some people got more personal items than others.

[boxedcrook]

They probably get a stupid reward. Like what we got when we chose during that one trial.

Anyone can kill, so anybody curious enough to go say they will and ask what they'll get would know.

[cuedoves]

We need to find out how many roles we're looking at, and what kind. We know there's one that gives items. There may be one that gives us clues, if we believe those machine men. [Halpal was a little shifty when Zuko asked so he's been considering it]

And... the kill roles. Those are the ones we already know about, or that could exist. What about others?

[cutefaced]

...the item role seems like it's... supposed to help us, right? It can give us things we can use to survive.

And the ones that ensure someone gets killed... obviously those are unhelpful.

Do you think whatever roles there are, it would be an even balance of helpful and unhelpful?

[chaosbloom]

One thing to consider is everyone's profiles. Some of them are really truthful, while others are very vague. We can assume they were put together by the Chiefs or whoever's in charge. And obviously, they're meant to influence what we think of each other...

[reidentify]

[He nods.]

Jacopo's, for instance, is rather detailed. On the other hand, beyond making me out to be some sort of arsonist, mine does not paint me in as negative of a light as it could.

[Not that he's suggesting that he's a questionable person, but.]

[alienated]

Some of them are jokes, too.

[Sacrificed for: Inappropriate bonding with a robot lion.]

We really shouldn't take them all at face value — if any of them.

[zwischenzugs]

[This will probably come back to bite him later, but.]

If I were running this game, I'd pick those who seemed the least suspicious to be the killers.

[Go on, ask him why.]

[hypertoxic]

[ mello why are you like this

flatly: ]

Since you obviously want someone to ask you: why?

[cuedoves]

And your suggestions based on this theory, are?

[cutefaced]

...so they wouldn't get caught right away, you mean?

[alienated]

[just

this face]

[jokered]

The way it looks, we only have three real options.

The first would be "obvious threats," people who show no problem killing or have a noted history of it.

The second would be "least obvious," to test our sense of trust and human nature. Obviously, they would think that's funny. [he does not.]

The third is really a combination of the two... which I think might be the key. There are multiple roles, right? There's no reason it has to be just one or the other.

[he sighs.]

It's all designed to screw with our sensibilities. Least obvious could still be "most obvious" because of how easy it is to spot that brand of logic. We all already know the robots do things for their entertainment. [a frown.] I don't think it's going to be as cut and dry as any of us would like us to be.

[hypertoxic]

That's a great summary, Akira. Thanks.

This game is going to be designed to be as hard for us as possible! There will never be an easy answer to our questions. The more we suffer, the closer we're getting to the truth, if you ask me. Since that would be entertainment!

[cutefaced]

[After a little while, Yona speaks up.]

This doesn't have to do with the roles exactly, but...

I was thinking about how some of you stayed up to watch the Chiefs... The hallucinations made it harder to do, but we knew for sure that neither of them did anything that time, right?

[...]

What if instead of sleeping inside of our huts on Thursday night, we all slept during the day and then stayed up together to watch each other all night? ...we might not be able to get everyone to agree, but if a large group of us did, that's a whole lot of us that we'd all be able to vouch for, right?

[reidentify]

... I feel as though the Chiefs would not allow that, to be honest.

[hypertoxic]

[ ... ]

You're definitely thinking along the right lines, Yona. I agree with the others that this probably won't work, but this is the kind of thought process we should be encouraging! Remember Hal telling us to use the rules to win? We should be getting creative with the rules.

[cuedoves]

We should at least try it. The only rule is that we can't enter our huts after nine. So, there's nothing to stop us from sleeping outside.

[chessking]

[ speaking of the hallucinations that Hiro brought up. ]

Neku brought this up during the trial last week - Joshua seemed to be immune to the hallucinations that plagued us during the course of Thursday and Friday, until his death was announced.

[ a frown. ]

If something happens on Thursday, would it be reasonable to assume that whoever the killing role has picked out would be immune to what's happening? Of course, I understand that that's largely contingent on whether something does happen on Thursday, but at the very least it gives us all a starting point to work with.

[alienated]

I agree. If something happens on every Thursday, the killing roles could be immune to it. [... And as much as he hates this:] They wouldn't be able to get their jobs done if they worked under the same rules the rest of us do.

[It's possible Joshua wasn't the only one spared from hallucinating.]

[thewinner]

Should we ask everyone if they saw stuff then or what did they even see?

[ He's crossing his arms as he says that cause someone in the room was going on about him being insensitive for asking before. ]

Or maybe try to see who isn't reacting to whatever crazy that happens next?